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#143060 - 21/02/06 06:23 AM mIRC 6.17 BUG with /names
Talon Offline
Vogon poet

Registered: 09/12/02
Posts: 198
Loc: Ohio, USA
ok, Conference Room IRCd's report /names as Nick!User@Host so that people dont /who the server to fill their IAL list.. mIRC handles this fine when populating the nicklist but an actual /names #chan only returns one or two nicks SOMETIMES!

mIRC Output:
#hamilton5 @Talon
#hamilton5 End of /NAMES list.

Debug Output:
<- :glass.webchat.org 353 Talon = #hamilton5 :@Talon!Talon@=igvbyuerfm.raex.com @Tr[a]visK!Travis_jk@=kUp-48-8-673-77.hsd1.tx.comcast.net @digits!digits1_9@=4ithgx-55-603-335-416.buff.east.verizon.net @Hamilton5!KiLLeR@=nz43-594-757-6.client.mchsi.com
<- :glass.webchat.org 366 Talon #hamilton5 :End of /NAMES list.

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#143061 - 22/02/06 12:09 AM Re: mIRC 6.17 BUG with /names
Soultech Offline
Pikka bird

Registered: 22/02/06
Posts: 10
Confirmed.

I blame Cobra^

Conference Room is terrible these days, i don't think i can name one advantage of any of the "added features" except for /kick now being able to use *!*@* format. I wouldn't be surprised if they start calling it something other than IRC software soon, because it barely is.

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#143062 - 22/02/06 12:46 AM Re: mIRC 6.17 BUG with /names
Stealth Offline
Vogon poet

Registered: 07/09/03
Posts: 149
Mark used to say it was 100% RFC compatible a year ago, then the last time I asked, Mark said it wasn't and never was...
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#143063 - 22/02/06 01:33 PM Re: mIRC 6.17 BUG with /names
Khaled Offline


Planetary brain

Registered: 04/12/02
Posts: 4449
Loc: London, UK
mIRC depends on the IRC server to be consistent with its replies, so if for some reason the IRC server provides incomplete information there's very little that the IRC client can do. I would suggest that you contact the IRC server coder and point out the issue to them.

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#143064 - 23/02/06 03:30 AM Re: mIRC 6.17 BUG with /names
nikb Offline
Nutrimatic drinks dispenser

Registered: 23/02/06
Posts: 5
I'm really confused by this bug report. Did you do the /NAMES when you were IN the channel? If you're not in the channel, some things are hidden (e.g. users that are +i)

I tested this for almost 20 minutes, and I haven't seen any problems with the functionality at all. As far as I can tell, CR is perfectly consistent.

A brief sidenote to the person that mentioned RFC compatibility. We try not to break things that make it impossible for clients to connect to us, but nowdays, you won't find many servers that stick to the RFC. Our server-server stuff is not RFC-compatible and doesn't need to be. But that you can connect with mIRC and a half dozen other clients means we are compatible.

nikb

P.S.: I laugh at thee, for having your forums mark me as a "newbie" :P


Edited by nikb (23/02/06 03:42 AM)

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#143065 - 23/02/06 08:09 AM Re: mIRC 6.17 BUG with /names
RusselB Offline
Planetary brain

Registered: 03/08/04
Posts: 7252
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Default positioning for anyone that has (as of when I looked at your post) only one posting. It means that you're a newbie related to the number of postings that have been made, not that you're a newbie to IRC, mIRC, scripting, or anything else that you might want to fill in there.

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#143066 - 23/02/06 08:14 AM Re: mIRC 6.17 BUG with /names
SladeKraven Offline
Planetary brain

Registered: 19/12/02
Posts: 3547
Loc: Kent, England
Taken from the forum FAQ.

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-Andy

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#143067 - 23/02/06 06:00 PM Re: mIRC 6.17 BUG with /names
Soultech Offline
Pikka bird

Registered: 22/02/06
Posts: 10
No, this is when /names is used while currently in the channel.

For instance, i do /names #help.mirc while in the channel, and mirc shows:

Quote:

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#help.mirc Trashlord
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#help.mirc @jaytea
#help.mirc End of /NAMES list.
-


however, when i check what the server actually sent, using /debug, i get this:

Quote:

-> webmaster.webchat.org NAMES #help.mirc
<- :webmaster.webchat.org 353 Soultech = #help.mirc :Trashlord!Sid@=dGgav.afik.org Soultech!jekz@=xDooe0-bbdc7-6-9-ydrj628.nott.cable.ntl.com Ambrosia!Belladonna@=nltygp-55-97-650-309.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net digitok!death@203.59.21.dK12= admien!Silent@219.95.82.xq500= GLadiaToR!Experience@=RS01.91.156.37.clearwire.be ixpemCRWJn!mo@=3Rvnvr-58-087-588-47.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net
<- :webmaster.webchat.org 353 Soultech = #help.mirc :@jaytea!jaytea@=5hnwtkbtv-UMP-dzk5160200.sympatico.ca @WebChat!service@conference.room Stealth[Sleep]!sleeping@=m3rdwq-56-451-303-852.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net @DKlined!drakkar@=KTq-25-1-794-215.hsd1.ct.comcast.net
<- :webmaster.webchat.org 366 Soultech #help.mirc :End of /NAMES list.


So something isn't working right.

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#143068 - 23/02/06 08:34 PM Re: mIRC 6.17 BUG with /names
nikb Offline
Nutrimatic drinks dispenser

Registered: 23/02/06
Posts: 5
It was a joke wink Thanks for the reply.

-n

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#143069 - 23/02/06 08:40 PM Re: mIRC 6.17 BUG with /names
nikb Offline
Nutrimatic drinks dispenser

Registered: 23/02/06
Posts: 5
I went over the code again, and I don't see any issues with CR. This is somewhat perplexing. I'll go over the code again though,

-n

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#143070 - 23/02/06 08:45 PM Re: mIRC 6.17 BUG with /names
Soultech Offline
Pikka bird

Registered: 22/02/06
Posts: 10
The problem is as Talon said, CR sends the names list in Nick!User@Host format, whereas usually its done in just nickname format.

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#143071 - 23/02/06 09:00 PM Re: mIRC 6.17 BUG with /names
nikb Offline
Nutrimatic drinks dispenser

Registered: 23/02/06
Posts: 5
It does so after sending "UHNAMES" in protoctl and getting a "UHNAMES" back from mIRC, which indicates support for n!u@h mask.

So, while 6.17 and later will get <level>n!u@h, 6.16 and earlier versions will get simply <level>nick.

Similar with NAMESX, which allows the server to send all levels (e.g. "@+nikb!nikb@staff.webchat.org" instead of simply "@nikb!nikb@staff.webchat.org"

Could I ask you to test this using arena.webchat.org, which runs a slightly newer build than the rest, and reports UHNAMES and NAMESX in its 005, because, I still don't see anything wrong with the CR side of this but obviously there's an issue somewhere -- whether it's in the output of CR, or in mIRC's parsing -- which must be addressed.

-n

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#143072 - 23/02/06 09:47 PM Re: mIRC 6.17 BUG with /names
Soultech Offline
Pikka bird

Registered: 22/02/06
Posts: 10
Yep, it seems it is indeed a mirc issue.

After testing with nikb we found that (as stated above) CR checks wether mirc supports the n!u@h format, then sends all info correctly:

Quote:

<- :arena.webchat.org 353 Soultech = #mIRC :Soultech!jekz@=ndptw4-wyoc8-4-8-lwwb718.nott.cable.ntl.com basicer^!basic@=AJ42-783-556-06.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com EggHelpz!web@72.20.2.qj683= +nikb!nikb@staff.webchat.org ixpemCRWJn!mo@=qkeflj-69-311-480-83.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net @+basicer!basic@=AJ42-783-556-06.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com @jaytea!jaytea@=9Fkgyerwj-MBJ-vsj9332700.sympatico.ca
<- :arena.webchat.org 353 Soultech = #mIRC :HeadAcheLikeHeII!ALLOONE@=1Zoh.jb.147.31.revip.asianet.co.th Guest34758!h3lp@203.172.161.HX60= elder!technogen.@=9Np765-84-90.commercial.cgocable.net Guest38510!dol@=R1sfc-80.11.86.155.revip2.asianet.co.th Guest5988!mIRC@85.99.159.5O816=
<- :arena.webchat.org 366 Soultech #mirc :End of /NAMES list.


mIRC has no problems when loading the nick list for the channel, only when displaying it otherwise.

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#143073 - 23/02/06 09:58 PM Re: mIRC 6.17 BUG with /names
Khaled Offline


Planetary brain

Registered: 04/12/02
Posts: 4449
Loc: London, UK
Thanks for checking it out, this has been fixed for the next bugfix release.

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#143074 - 23/02/06 10:19 PM Re: mIRC 6.17 BUG with /names
nikb Offline
Nutrimatic drinks dispenser

Registered: 23/02/06
Posts: 5
Quote:
Thanks for checking it out, this has been fixed for the next bugfix release.


Thank you.

-n

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#143075 - 24/02/06 01:50 AM Re: mIRC 6.17 BUG with /names
Cobra Offline
Fjord artisan

Registered: 07/12/02
Posts: 208
Loc: Ohio, USA
Quote:

Confirmed.

I blame Cobra^


SURE why not, blame Cobra^ ....

/me grumbles

lol

Cobra^

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