Thank you so much for your support on this matter codemastr. I could not agree more. I don't mind fixing things that aren't broken (like breaking them and putting together yet again)... but seriously the vote is mirc 6.03 > 6.1x. And that's the story I'm sticking with. It has nothing to do with being against Khaled's ideas or anything. It has to do with wanting more functionality, and I don't like the upgrade.