you know if you were more careful about what you downloaded, you wouldn't need an antivirus >:D I haven't have an antivirus for 6 years, and not one virus in that diration. >:D Its called the "not download everything under the sun prevention method" Also, was it you on a forum that said "I don't execute it, i just extract it? If it were, just wanted to say that is one in the same. Something has to execute to extract, and something is just enough for a macro or two to run like mp3 exploit are handled. grin