hmmm, i'm really completely confused about all this, ive never had a problem with any of this stuff before, and when i have, i can usually solve it with information posted on here. Ive tried forwarding the ports 1024 to 1324 on my router and setting those ports on my mirc(s) lol and both havn't worked the only thing i can actually think of is the router preventing a connection with myself too Raimus2. What can i do to sort this problem out, phone my ISP?