thanksyou.. the timer should show in status right? cause if it is then its not working.... i guess this is a diffucult script to do and noone has it... cause its in 3 different forums and none work so far... i still gotta wat a bit to see if this one kicks though. ill wait 5 minutes. all i did was copy/paste exactly.. anthing else i need to change? ill post again in a few with current status